tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7685165.post109892315434549822..comments2023-03-25T05:45:56.990-05:00Comments on unclimber: Makes Worship FunUnclimberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08401889806873335827noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7685165.post-1099308717062348582004-11-01T06:31:00.000-05:002004-11-01T06:31:00.000-05:00The core Quaker mistake:
They wanted to get rid o...The core Quaker mistake:<br /><br />They wanted to get rid of all dead forms. They did not realise that waiting together in silence is also a form. Forms are either dead nor live but helpful or not helpful, used by God and those who serve him or not. So silence too can become a dead form.<br /><br />But yes, there is a little of the tightrope walk without the safety net to it. One thing you don't see in Quakerism -- at least in the non-pastoral form I belong to -- is folks hiring a pastor and expecting them to do their praying for them. In Quakerism if it needs doing you either do it yourself you you do it together. Taht is both a strength and a liability.nathan's shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17333649679313721590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7685165.post-1099272116784067482004-10-31T20:21:00.000-05:002004-10-31T20:21:00.000-05:00Yeah, I think its interesting that they wanted to ...Yeah, I think its interesting that they wanted to reform the Catholic church but didn't want too much reformation, 'let's not get too carried away' they seem to say.<br /><br />I can see the importance of having the BCP for someone who felt they needed something to hold onto when they weren't sure what they were doing. For instance, when I don't know what to pray, there are all kinds of ready made prayers. It feels like rails for a train --the rails are helpful to keep you on the track if you're afraid of falling off, but they also keep you on the track and limit your freedoms (at least thats one way of looking at it).<br /><br />I'm very interested in the Quaker view, but at times it seems to me like its 'look Ma, no hands!' Its wonderfully liberating but absolutely terrifying. But thats just an outsider's view looking in. I have no idea how it really works. Thats why I'm reading YOUR blog (and Larry's and Ken's...)Marjoriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08946222067827722839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7685165.post-1099257791425166072004-10-31T16:23:00.000-05:002004-10-31T16:23:00.000-05:00Being an aficiando of early Quaker writings I can ...Being an aficiando of early Quaker writings I can testify for the other side.<br /><br />There is all sorts of Quaker tracts from about 300-350 years ago condmening the BCP. The issue isn't so much the theology in the BCP per se as the theology implicit in writing a BCP in the 1st place. Its like some church committee saying -- here now -- if everybody just prayed the same prayers at the same time we'd all be good Christians that's right. Quakes didn't like people telling the Holy Spirit when to act.nathan's shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17333649679313721590noreply@blogger.com